Farid Benyettou récite du Dounia Bouzar… et les médias cognent sur Thierry Ardisson

On aurait pu traiter cet épisode avec enthousiasme : quel symbole magnifique, quel formidable hommage aux victimes que cette image du guide spirituel des Kouachi arborant le badge « Je suis Charlie » ! La preuve ultime et absolue que la « déradicalisation » des plus enragés est possible, un signe d’espoir, une petite lumière au bout du tunnel. Si lui a été déradicalisé, alors tous peuvent l’être. On a trouvé la recette, deux ans tout juste après Charlie. C’est la fin du cauchemar, c’est beau. Et merci Ardisson.

Sauf que non.

L’indignation suscitée par la brève réapparition de Farid Benyettou en « ex-djihadiste » / «déradicalisé » / « repenti » aura révélé une chose : à tort peut-être, personne ne croit à la possibilité d’un retour dans le droit chemin. Et les médias doivent composer avec ce scepticisme généralisé… qui les éclabousse un peu.

Repenti ou « repenti » ?

Sans les guillemets, c’est qu’on y croit.

Ici aussi :

Et ici :

Avec les guillemets, on est plus prudent.

Voir aussi :

Dans le titre qui suit, la tournure « se présente comme » opère une mise à distance du discours de Benyettou, que le rédacteur a soin de ne pas reprendre à son compte :

En outre, il faut noter que l’idée de « repentir » appartient au domaine de la morale. Or, il était entendu que les djihadistes devaient être soumis à un protocole de « déradicalisation » impliquant psychologues, éducateurs, hamsters à caresser, groupes de parole, batteries de tests comportementaux, pour tout dire une approche scientifique, systématisée et médicalisée de leur cas. On parle bien d’« éradiquer » le terrorisme, comme on dit éradiquer un virus.

En revanche, si ce qu’il faut atteindre est une forme de repentir, alors il va falloir embaucher des prêtres, des confesseurs aguerris formés à reconnaître la vraie contrition, et on peut laisser tomber les hamsters. J’ai déjà eu l’occasion ici de souligner la confusion fréquente entre l’approche pathologique et l’approche morale du dhijadisme. Ce Benyettou est-il un malade que l’on a guéri (ou qui s’est guéri tout seul, apparemment) ou bien un méchant devenu gentil ?

Ce n’est même pas si simple. La « maladie » dont il a souffert est-elle comme la varicelle ou comme la grippe ? Dans le premier cas, aucune rechute possible. Dans le second, il suffit que le virus mute un peu et c’est la récidive (au sens à la fois médical et pénal du terme).

Quant à l’hypothèse du méchant désormais « repenti », elle est bien moins rassurante que celle du virus contagieux. Une guérison est objective. Un repentir peut être feint. Au demeurant, plus encore que dans le cas de la guérison, quand bien même il serait réel, le repentir peut n’être que transitoire. Personne ici-bas ne saurait sonder le cœur de M. Benyettou, à qui l’on ne peut finalement que conseiller d’accumuler les preuves de son repentir s’il espère convaincre de sa réalité, tout en lui faisant remarquer que le véritable problème réside moins dans notre incrédulité peut-être coupable et excessive, que dans son adhésion maintenue à une doctrine qui cautionne le mensonge et la dissimulation à l’égard des mécréants.

Conversion ou reconversion ?

C’est un spécialiste du terrorisme qui parle de la « conversion » de Benyettou:

Mais conversion… à quoi ? Farid Benyettou est toujours musulman. A la non-violence, peut-être ? Mais s’il est vrai qu’il a été mis en cause dans un projet d’attentat, il y a une vingtaine d’années, son action n’a jamais pris d’autre forme que celle de la prédication et de la formation spirituelle, autrement dit de l’endoctrinement des candidats au djihad.

Est-il vraiment moins contestable de dire qu’il s’est « reconverti »? Le mot implique d’établir une incompatibilité entre les fonctions considérées : quand on se reconvertit, on abandonne un emploi pour un autre… En théorie, du moins.

Sa première « reconversion » avait consisté à abandonner la prédication salafiste au profit d’un poste d’infirmier stagiaire :

Voir aussi :

Depuis, son « repentir » est devenu son gagne-pain puisqu’il a été embauché par Dounia Bouzar au sein du CPDSI (centre de prévention des dérives sectaires liées à l’islam) avec le statut de conseiller en déradicalisation. Pour l’Express, il s’est « reconverti dans le secteur de la déradicalisation » :

Cela fait très « pro ». D’ailleurs, selon France Info, Benyettou est « passé pro en déradicalisation ». Pour saisir le comique de la formule, il faut se rappeler que personne ne sait en quoi consiste la déradicalisation, ni même si ce mot a un sens:

Un malaise, quel malaise ?

Personne n’ayant de raison solide pour remettre en cause la sincérité de Benyettou, les critiques se sont concentrées sur Ardisson. Avec cette sempiternelle question qui n’en est pas une : fallait-il inviter X ? Réponse, of course, il ne fallait pas l’inviter. Ou il ne fallait pas l’inviter ce jour-là. Ardisson a d’ailleurs répliqué :

Mais le CSA (conseil supérieur de l’audiovisuel), saisi par deux sénateurs, instruit un dossier.

Et L’Express pose la question :

Le rédacteur de l’article déplace le problème, en le reformulant ainsi dans le corps du texte : « faut-il donner la parole à Farid Benyettou? » On ne voit pas pourquoi il ne faudrait pas lui « donner la parole ». C’est le bon vieux réflexe de la censure dite responsable qui s’exprime ici. Quant à la question de la « décence », il faut tout de même rappeler que Benyettou n’est pas venu sur le plateau du 20h de Pujadas mais sur celui d’une émission de divertissement animée par Thierry Ardisson ! Que les familles des victimes s’en émeuvent est une chose, que la presse s’en offusque et que le CSA s’en mêle, est plus surprenant.

Qu’est-ce qui gêne vraiment les médias ? Après tout, Farid Benyettou n’a-t-il pas livré le discours parfait ? N’a-t-il pas dit exactement ce qu’il devait dire ? Que peut-on lui reprocher ? D’être Charlie? Personne n’a jamais été capable d’expliquer ce slogan ultra-creux ! S’il veut dire par là qu’il désapprouve les actes des frères Kouachi, comment lui en vouloir ?

Le « malaise », c’est que personne n’ose croire à la sincérité de ce qui apparaît comme une très grossière opération marketing.

Le « malaise », surtout pour les médias, c’est qu’il ne s’agit pas seulement de vendre un livre. Il s’agit, pour Dounia Bouzar, de retrouver une crédibilité.

Tous les articles, ou presque, font comme si Benyettou était seul sur le plateau. Mais pendant qu’il parle, elle est là et elle approuve d’un hochement de tête tout ce qu’il dit. Et comment ne l’approuverait-elle pas ? Il récite du Dounia Bouzar ! (à partir de 1:22:55)

Farid Benyettou, qui a été un maître entouré de disciples, se recycle en disciple et sait exactement ce qu’il doit dire pour plaire à son maître. Il a trouvé une nouvelle façon d’exister. Et Dounia Bouzar n’a plus qu’à le laisser parler. Qu’importe si, comme le souligne Eugénie Bastié, le parcours de Benyettou invalide les thèses majeures défendues par Dounia Bouzar :

L’experte en déradicalisationdont l’association a été inondée de subventions publiques à hauteur de 600.000 euros est vivement critiquée pour ses méthodes controversées et ses résultats invérifiables. C’est à partir d’un de ses rapports, fondé sur un échantillon de 160 familles, que l’idée selon laquelle les jeunes se radicaliseraient via internet s’est imposée dans le débat public. Farid Benyettou est pourtant le contre-exemple absolu, lui qui a converti au djihad par la prédication de rue. Deuxième «thèse» de Dounia Bouzar: l’idée que la radicalisation djihadiste est le fruit d’une «dérive sectaire» qui n’a rien à voir avec l’islam. Là encore, Benyettou, prédicateur islamiste féru de théologie, ne correspond pas à cette définition.

L’important, c’est le discours de Benyettou. « Les candidats au djihad veulent changer le monde », disait Dounia Bouzar. « Je voulais changer le monde », dit Benyettou. Elle parle d’ »idéologie djihadiste », un concept flou. Et lui, « l’ex-djihadiste », reprend l’expression telle quelle. Le malaise vient de là. C’est trop parfait, et trop opportun.

A partir du moment où les théories de Dounia Bouzar sur la radicalisation islamique ont commencé à être contestées, les médias ont prudemment cessé de faire appel à ses analyses, espérant sans doute qu’elle disparaîtrait progressivement du paysage, comme le laissait espérer la perte de ses subventions. Toutefois même les articles traitant de la remise en question de ses compétences restaient souvent positifs, voire élogieux: n’était-elle pas « l’icône médiatique de la déradicalisation française? »

Dounia Bouzar ne se laissera pas enterrer si facilement. Et le « malaise » provoqué par la « séquence » Benyettou est avant-tout celui d’un monde médiatique qui a, des années durant, construit sa présentation (et donc notre perception) du terrorisme islamique quasi exclusivement sur la base d’un discours désormais discrédité.

1 155 réflexions au sujet de « Farid Benyettou récite du Dounia Bouzar… et les médias cognent sur Thierry Ardisson »

  1. Bonne analyse mais qui pêche par plusieurs absences.. Que sait de cet homme on dit qu’il prêchait dans la rue mais quel cursus scolaire et surtout de combien d’années bénéficie t’il en matière d’études de cette religion. S’il est comme tous ces abrutis qui ont très faibles connaissances mais qui nous font croire le contraire. Cet homme est un mythomane qui a su tromper comme un gourou des gens en situation de faiblesse. Enfin comme beaucoup vous ne mettez pas en cause le fait même que ce monsieur est musulman ainsi que sa bienfaitrice Bouzar alors que cette religion pose un problème dans notre espace européen comme l’a affirmé la cour européenne des droits de l’homme. Cette religion met en cause la femme les homosexuels les non croyants les chrétiens et les juifs…je m’arreterais là.

    • Merci d’avoir commenté mon post. Vous avez raison, je n’insiste pas sur certains points. Je ne veux pas m’éloigner du traitement médiatique de l’apparition de Benyettou chez Ardisson. Je dis tout de même que FBenyettou continue de professer une religion qui autorise à mentir et à dissimuler, comme le signalent aussi d’autres intervenants dans les commentaires de ce post. Pour ce qui est de son parcours scolaire etc., j’avoue mon ignorance mais il parle bien et il a l’air intelligent. Ce qui explique, d’ailleurs, qu’il ait pu être un manipulateur efficace. Et qu’il faille continuer à s’en méfier.

  2. Si on veut déradicaliser radicalement (non, ce n’est pas un truisme), il faut, autant que possible, détacher de la racine du mal, donc de l’Islam et de ses injonctions coraniques (8:39, 9:29…), confirmées par les quatre écoles sunnites, à soumettre la planète par les armes (et à se faire rassurant quand il n’est pas encore possible de le faire ouvertement). Pour cela, le plus efficace est de s’appuyer sur ceux qui en sont déjà sortis et en deviennent les dénonciateurs les plus acharnés et les mieux informés (sur une religion, il y a des choses qu’on ne voit que de l’intérieur et des choses qu’on ne voit que de l’extérieur, ils sont passé de l’un à l’autre). Voir http://daruc.pagesperso-orange.fr/divers/islamex.htm (je recommande particulièrement le livre d’Ali Sina),

  3. Analyse très pertinente . 2 points à préciser : Ardisson n’est pas à clouer au pilori pour avoir invité les 2 compères D et F. Il nous informe en quelque sorte .Et dans un livre paru 15ans auparavant DB présentait Tarik Ramadan comme un « travailleur social » d’un nouveau genre et soutenait que le retour à l’islam favoriserait l’intégration : on reste pantois devant tant de lucidité.

  4. Je ne vois pas pourquoi on ne croirait pas ce garçon et j’ai l’impression qu’on fait un mauvais procès à Dounia Bouzar.
    Elle dit qu’il l’a aidée à tirer d’affaires une trentaine de jeunes. Pourquoi le mettre en doute? Toute aide pour pacifier la France à l’interne mesemble bonne à prendre…

    • DB n’est absolument pas crédible. Je la soupçonne meme de pratiquer la « tokia » afin de nous prendre des vessies pour des lanternes.
      Cette femme m’a toujours agacé tant ses propos sont falacieux et déconnecté de la réalité

  5. Avant de s’aventurer dans des projets utopiques de « déradicalisation » il faudrait savoir de quoi on parle. Et pour cela il faut aller à la racine de l’idéologie djihadiste c’est à dire étudier les textes fondateurs : le Coran et la Sunna. Après ça, vous saurez pourquoi le projet de « déradicalisation » est une absurdité. Le Djihadiste ne vit pas dans notre monde.Il est hors d’atteinte dans sa forteresse intérieure.

    • Oh oui, par pitié, que l’on lise le Coran ! En arabe si possible, ou bien dans une traduction non édulcorée (celle de Régis Blachère, par exemple, très complète et richement annotée).
      Et après, on en reparlera, de la « religion de paix et de tolérance »…

      • Le mieux est de le lire par ordre chronologique (ordre d’Al Azhar , par exemple) avec le livre de la sîra (vie de mahomet)le plus usité : Muhammad d’Ibn ‘Ishäq (deux tomes) et un ou deux tafsîrs (commentaires),par exemple, Tafsîr At Tabarî, et At Tafsîr Al Qurtubî,( de doctrine malékite, doctrine du Maghreb). Edifiant.

  6. Bonsoir,

    Depuis toujours nous pensons le même bien que vous de Dounia Bouzar. Quant à la pantalonnade du « repenti » et plus si affinité vous le décrivez remarquablement.

  7. N’oubliez pas Dounia Bouzar est issu d’un mariage mixte elle s’est convertie .à l’islam. Quand on sait les comportements des convertis à l’islam il y a quoi avoir peur. Plus grave cette dame se permet de poser des conditions au ministère de l’intérieur. Cela démontre un degré de déliquescence de nos gouvernants. On a donné à des associations fantoches le droit de s’occuper de deradicalisation alors que l’on avait déjà une structure qui existe chargé de combattre les dérives sectaires la Mivitude dont le député ancien juge Georges Fenech en a été président. Pourquoi ne s’est on pas appuyé sur cet organisme quant on sait qu’en 2015 ce dernier n’a pas utilisé tout ses crédits. Loin des 800 OOO euros de Dounia Bouzar.

    • Votre commentaire est très pertinent. En effet, dans la mesure où il existe des organismes officiels de lutte contre les dérives dites sectaires, pourquoi aller financer une nouvelle officine ? Le dernier VSD contient un article sur le « juteux business » de la déradicalisation. DBouzar n’est pas la seule à se remplir les poches.

      • Parce que créer un nouveau machin permet de créer un nouvel « emploi fonctionnel », future planque à énarque…

        Pour mémoire, Balladur n’a jamais été mis en cause pour l’incendie du tunnel du Mont Blanc, qu’il a géré pendent quoi, deux décennies avant le fameux (oserais-je fumeux) incident?

  8. Je voudrais ajouter pourquoi utiliser des musulmans pour de radicaliser on ne cesse de faire la même chose dans pleins de domaine. Dans la sécurité on voit le plus souvent des noirs ou des arabes comme si eux étaient plus compétents. Implicitement on suppose que comme les délinquants sont le plus souvent maghrébins ou africains il faut des gens qui soi disant les comprennent. Au niveau politique on procède de la même manière on développe le communautarisme. Dans le secteur social dans l’enseignement professionnel …La ou il y a une immigration importante queque soit la generation on met en face des personnes appartenant a cette meme populationil s’agit d’un simple constat n’y voyait aucun racisme je suis moi même d’origine algérienne. Je partage l’avis de Kukenhof la de radicalisation est une incongruité.

  9. Bien vu Mme RIOCREUX : il ne fallait pas les interdire d’antenne , je suis d’accord ; cependant , comme souvent (cf NVB devant 2 salafistes qui reste coite devant leurs provocations ) , : aucun contradicteur , aucune question .

  10. « Et le « malaise » provoqué par la « séquence » Benyettou est avant-tout celui d’un monde médiatique qui a, des années durant, construit sa présentation (et donc notre perception) du terrorisme islamique quasi exclusivement sur la base d’un discours désormais discrédité. »
    Tout à fait !

    « le véritable problème réside moins dans notre incrédulité peut-être coupable et excessive, que dans son adhésion maintenue à une doctrine qui cautionne le mensonge et la dissimulation à l’égard des mécréants. »
    OK, hormis le fait que je considère que notre « incrédulité » n’est ni coupable ni excessive.
    La takyia est une réalité de l’islam, qu’on le veuille ou non. Pour cette raison, je ne ferai jamais confiance à un ex-djihadiste qui reste dans l’islam « modéré » ou non.

  11. - Lorsqu’en janvier 2015, apparaît à la tv le visage du cadet Kouachi, ça me dit quelque chose mais je sais plus… Puis l’enquête avance et apparaît le visage du radicalisateur Farid, alors je me souviens mieux…
    - Novembre 2014, terrasse d’un bar du 19è: ce radicalisateur-là prêche fozislam avec ce radicalisé-ultra-radicalisable-là, et moi attablé à côté par hasard, en bon marxien de leur âge, évidemment j’interviens, me mets d’accord avec F-préchi-précha sur le constat nihiliste quoiqu’en l’invitant à analyser plus dialectiquement la dèche prolétaire et son bras armé qu’est le racisme. Mais la mauvaise-foi de F-préchi-précha prend le dessus lorsque j’aborde la vanité des justiciers-solitaires et la non-constructivité des actions-destructrices: je le vois car il me fait dériver sur mon athéisme et ma méconnaissance coranique, ceci afin de ne pas perdre son mouton (le cadet Kouachi) qui patiente nerveusement. Moi: « L’esprit du Coran ce sont des copains de lycée qui me l’ont expliqué, mais pour ma curiosité culturelle oui un jour je le lirai en bibliothèque ». F-préchi-précha: « La seule édition qui vaille tu ne peux l’avoir que par moi, RV demain mêmes lieu/heure ». Moi: « OK, bonne soirée, faut’qu’j'bouge ». Le lendemain, j’y vais pas, certain que lui non plus.
    - F-préchi-précha, c’est l’gars pas hallal qui s’autoproclame imam, le détraqué en manque de sa gueule à la télé (dans un style différent du Jawad de Saint-Denis), mais avec le recul de cette unique rencontre: le mec qui envoie ses potes de quartier à la mort pour son brossage, le mec qui collatéralise la mort des victimes d’attentat paske-ça-pourrait-parfaire-son-brossage, et qui fout des lunettes noires à la tv en faux-déradicalisateur pour son brossage. Le genre de gars qui avancera quand il pleurera sincèrement sur ses problèmes à créer des relations amicales non-manipulées, et quand il comprendra que faut pas confondre j’ai-besoin-d-1-psy et son brossage.
    - Bin merde, si j’avais su, j’aurais bien dit au « pti véner » (le cadet Kouachi) que son copain était manipulateur, ce soir-là par hasard…

    Bien à vous

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    « Sans les guillemets, c’est qu’on y croit. (…)
    Avec les guillemets, on est plus prudent. »

    Le premier extrait suivant la deuxième partie de cette proposition démontre qu’il n’y a là aucune prudence, mais de simples citations.

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